“Kyma-X Revealed” from the website for $ It is very very well written and extremely in depth. So as far as documentation goes, the documentation is excellent. Kyma X is like your ‘daw’ it has a timeline if you require, so you can work you buy the Kyma X revealed book and see if you think it is for you. Introduction to the Kyma Sound Design Workstation company: software: Kyma X () hardware: Capybara• host computer. (Kyma X) KymaX revealed.

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You can find this year’s holiday gift right here. What are you guys thinking about Kyma from Symbolic Sound? Have you ever tried? Some thoughts would be nice, cause Reveaeld love the idea of having dsp running such machine ZendaOct 21, Nope, there are things that Kyma does that Reaktor can’t match up the way Kyma does morphing of sounds d its Tau editor is kinda amazing. EvilDragonOct 21, I think that the question that matters kgma whether there’s anything that “you” want to do that needs Kyma, Every time I try to find out something more in depth about it I feel like I’m being transported to some academic music lab stuck in ervealed Try looking for a youtube video on “Kyma Tau editor” and you get basically two videos, one moving quite slowly and sounding really bad in places and the other giving you some alien cricket sounds.

Maybe it’s just the thing that we’ve all be looking for, but we’d never revealwd. That is probably the best way to get a handle on whether you want to check revealec out further.

There are also videos on Vimeo that are better than the ones on YouTube. I read the latter book, and concluded that while the horizons of possibility might be limitless with Kyma, the learning curve seems nearly vertical because so much is possibleand there is very little scaffolding for the beginning user because so much is possibleso I would probably stumble around for a very long time feeling lost and stupid. That seems to be some people’s experience in Kyma. Others claim to find some kind of sonic enlightenment.

I’m sure that’s possible, if you have enough money and time.

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I could find the money, if I really tried – but I don’t think I could find the time that Kyma requires. The book gives a thorough overview of the 50 modules that the author, Jeffrey Stolet, thinks are most useful.

I think Kyma comes with “prototype” modules, and a lot more other stuff. Also, in my opinion, the GUI is ugly. All of that said, the ability to analyze one sound and apply its spectral characteristics to another sound – to morph the sound of raindrops into the sound of a piano into the sound of a crackling fire, and that’s just the tiniest glimpse of what an adept user can do – is amazing, and probably not accessible on any other system.

So if that sounds like what you want to do, you probably want Kyma. In terms of what you get for your money and your timeReaktor and its ever growing UL continue to amaze me. Aalto and Kaivo are also amazing, amazing, amazing, I can’t recommend them highly enough. They are truly musical instruments and works of art. It took me a while to appreciate Aalto, and I’m still trying to come to terms with Kaivo, but the latter, in particular, can spit out dazzlingly rich, complex, nuanced, enchanting sounds and textures that I would’ve thought a Kyma-esque system would be needed to achieve.


Aalto and Kaivo are both able to give me the experience of being surprised by the emergent properties and behaviors of a complex patch that I’ve put together. That experience is very rare, I think. And it keeps me coming back to them. Now I’ve overhyped these two little VSTs, and you’ll be disappointed. Please throw some grains of salt on what I’ve said, and then go check out the demos and find out for yourself. And go read about Kyma if it intrigues you – maybe it’s perfect for you.

Maybe someday I’ll become an acolyte myself. ExiannycOct 24, Thanks for your comments Christian, thats what is absolutley true, the time and money you have so spend is awesome. But a friend says after all this trouble you will be rewarded.

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That said, the sound lab kyma will be a investment if you wanna get really own unusal sounds. But Reaktor is really quick in terms of worklflow Kyma seems to be not so well integrated in ones setup, because of additional soundcard and no kyma plugin.

What I often hear from a kyma friend is that reaktor has its own sound you can recognize easily. Its true often reaktor does not sound that polished, e. Its working really well in the lower frequencies. But may be this is the reason for reaktors “phatness” if you know what I am talking about. Kyma sounds really could in the mids and higher frequencies. I really like the work of amon tobin isamcristian vogel inertials and nowerdays frank riggio psychexess.

The morphing makes me really looking forward to kyma, cause its the best I know, I tried in reaktor but its different than tau editor: Kaivo and Aalto sound different from the “reaktorsound”!

ZendaOct 25, Nico thanks for the names of people whose work in Kyma I can check out.

It sounds like you have a lot of interest in Kyma. The idea of an extremely powerful external DSP box that has huge sonic potential is very appealing. I think it is a valid idea, for people who need that level of power. BUT, for now, my computer can handle what I ask it to do musically Another part of this question of which system is right for a given person is the simple fact that I’m a hobbyist, not a professional sound designer or musician.

If I were either of those things, I would probably have Kyma already. All I really “need” is instruments that I can enjoy and explore, and a user library where people keep coming up with entertaining ideas that I can access for free.

Maybe Reaktor has a “sound,” but I have to say, with the latest release, a lot of Blocks ensembles instantly sound a-ma-zing. The algorithms are very high quality. I think you jyma a lot of bang for rrvealed buck with Reaktor. Would a professional producer know that I used Reaktor? Would that bother me? I am the kind of person who would list the tools he had used in his liner notes. Bob Ostertag, who has been making electronic music for 30 years, made a whole record on Aalto He also made a whole record called “Motormouth: Bob Ostertag Plays the Buchla e.


His stuff is wonderful. His records “Say no more” and “Verbatim” are some of my favorite records anywhere. He also gives all his music away free on bobostertag. Not as high quality as on cdbaby, but, free. So you can compare an artist thoroughly exploring these two instruments: I like the Aalto record better. Bob is currently touring Asia, doing concerts, playing one instrument: ExiannycOct 26, I heard Bob Ostertags Aalto album, minimalistic approach but good sounds What you think of Max 7 sonic potential?

Often I run out of CPU, while playing avenue in the background.

ZendaOct 26, What exactly do you need that require other tools? Seems like to me all you need is reveealed computer that’s more powerful. ExiannycOct 27, One factor in the ‘Reaktor sound’ negativity that seems to proliferate is the old UL ratings system. Any new user is likely to head to the UL as it is a selling point. Human nature dictates that they will start downloading the all-time best rated ensembles. Unfortunately before the UL rating system was updated, many of these were very old, and used factory components that now sound dated and tired.

The rating system meant that these old out-of-date devices influenced how many new users perceived Reaktor, and the resulting biased viewpoint is somewhat understandable.

Things are better now, but it takes a long time for those kind of negative opinions to change.

Once people believe it has a ‘sound’ that’s what they will hear. ZendaOct 27, The way I see it Kyma and Reaktor are really very different things.

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Reaktor is used to make Synths and FX Units. Kyma is used to design sounds, these sounds may be created to be “playable” but they are not synths in the same way that Reaktor ones will be with sound generators, filters etc with a nice GUI and loads of knobs. In Kyma you tend not to use too many modules to create your sounds, most are created with just a few. The power comes from the fact that most of the parameters of the modules can be defined with an interpreted language called CapyTalk which allows you to modify everything on the fly without attaching loads of modules together.

You can also use Smalltalk to script the initial creation of the patch which is very powerful, a simple example of how this works is here: BobTheDogNov 1, Do you know anybody using kyma? ZendaNov 10, You must log in or sign up to reply here. Your name or email address: